Spencer Proven Wrong by Muslim-Christian Unity in Egypt

Spencer wasn’t expecting (or hoping) for this:

In contradistinction to the vapid antagonizers who wish to see a religious war between Muslims and Christians there are those souls who are willing to stand up for religious freedom — and thankfully they are an overwhelming majority!

59 thoughts on “Spencer Proven Wrong by Muslim-Christian Unity in Egypt

  1. I just read how two Christian families – 11 in total – were brutally slaughtered by their neighbors.

    The article said their attackers were Islamists.

    But the propaganda on here is touching. Rather than addressing the downright nasty views many Egyptian Muslims have of Copts, you’d rather spread misinformation that Copts and Muslims coexist peacefully in Egypt.

    Shame on you for that. I hope JCL from Loonwatch will come over to share his observations of what Copts in Egypt are experiencing. Certainly Copts themselves do not believe your mythical narrative that they are fully embraced and tolerated in Egyptian society.

    It is no less demeaning and dishonest than if someone were to claim that ‘the overwhelming majority’ of Whites during the 50’s and 60’s were united alongside Blacks by showing pictures of Whites attending MLK speeches and freedom riders and the like.

    • So much hate and anger from our deceptive loon. Shame on LW for showing unity between Christian and Muslim? Shame on you for trying to actively downplay it or simply deny it. It’s horrible what happened to this family. But to completely disregard Christians and Muslims uniting shows your divisive nature. Someone shows unity, you counteract with division. But this pretty much falls in with your overall objective here.

      But i’m glad you brought up the civil rights analogy, because this means the road is towards more unity and tolerance regardless of the objections that islamists and islamophobes have to it.

    • “you’d rather spread misinformation that Copts and Muslims coexist peacefully in Egypt.”

      Can you find me a quote that shows how this article is saying that. No. This article is highlighting how there is religious tolerance amongst many Muslims in Egypt. The situation is far from perfect but when a true democracy is set up, not a US-supported dictatorship, then there will be improvement, simply because the voices of 10% of the population cannot be ignored by politicians anymore. Also, the fact that this religious cooperation is being shown in these protests proves that many of the protestors are in favour of a democracy which is better for the Muslim majority and the Christian minority.

      “I hope JCL from Loonwatch will come over to share his observations of what Copts in Egypt are experiencing.”

      You want him to repeat his “observation” that Egypt is like Germany in 1933. Absolutely, reminds me of the time Jews and Christians protected each other from the Nazi SA whilst they prayed. There is definitely hatred against Copts but it’s a bit of an exaggeration to say that it’s like 1933. Though I agree with his observation that it’s too early to tell what’s going to happen.

      Sine you’re loving JCL’s ‘observations’ today then perhaps you might want his other ‘observations’ that are equally relevant to this discussion:

      “Another difficulty for me are the Ikhwan. I’ve a lot of respect for them. I admire their persistence in the face of an enormous amount of brutal treatment and manipulation by the Egyptian government. A number of my really close friends are members of the Brotherhood. I really do hope that they are in the process of evolving into the New Brotherhood and that they’ll be able to play a full role in the future of Egyptian civil society. I’m just not sure I can believe it yet. I think the post-Mubarak transition will help clarify things, at least for me.”

      As JCL rightly said, real scholars of Islam see the Muslim Brotherhood as “absolutely nothing remarkable”. So obviously, Spencer isn’t a real scholar since he’s crapping himself about the imminent takeover of Egypt by the Brotherhood. But we knew that before:
      http://spencerwatch.com/2010/07/06/robert-spencer-i-am-never-wrong-even-when-i-am-wrong/

      • “A number of my really close friends are members of the Brotherhood.”

        Look Bob! Call Spencer, only he can save us! The Mooslim Brotherhood!!!

        *screams by JihadWatch loons like Bob and Porkster*

    • Yet no mention of the 800 or more protesters injured (many killed) by Mubarak’s hired goons in one day after power was cut at Tahrir Square by using molotov cocktails, guns, machetes and other weapons – including attacking protesting pedestrians from horses and camels (!). No mention of the fact that ordinary Egyptians had to erect barricades and take other security measures in fear for their homes and families, even organising ad-hoc neighbourhood watch groups. No mention either that Mubarak’s hired help tried to sack the Egyptian Museum and place the blame elsewhere.

      The killing of anyone is a travesty – Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Buddhist… anyone. The fact that you cannot seem to admit that the death of Muslims is just as much a travesty as a non-Muslim, is telling.

      The fact that a revolution for democracy, human rights and representational government can make you so uneasy and fearful is proof that Orientalism (in its pejorative sense) is alive and well in some facets of mainstream opinion.

      I would imagine that if your friend Dr JCL did make a post here, he would not have such a binary and simplistic take on the situation as you. If he does know recent Egyptian history, politics and society, he will know that this uprising has nothing to do with Islamism and is a popular, grass-roots revolt against injustice and tyranny. Both the MB and many of the scholars in al-Azhar have shown their true irrelevance and inemptitude at this time.

  2. Shame on LW for showing unity between Christian and Muslim?

    Sure. Just as I would shame someone who claimed that Negroes really had it good in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s in White America – living in peace with their White neighbors and Whites fully embracing and tolerating the Black community.

    Someone shows unity, you counteract with division.

    Rather, I would prefer LW/SW not insult a Westerner’s intelligence with such North Korea-esque propaganda pieces.

    What evidence does Emperor have that a majority of Egypt’s Muslims are willing to stand up for religious freedom? Even the rabid Leftists and Israel haters in Egypt are occasionally honest enough to admit that bigotry against Christians is widespread and the norm in Egyptian society.

    What do you have to gain from misrepresenting reality? Fewer converts to Islam?

    • “Just as I would shame someone who claimed that Negroes really had it good in the 50′s, 60′s and 70′s in White America – living in peace with their White neighbors and Whites fully embracing and tolerating the Black community.”

      Was this the modern, democratic, civilised, non-Mooslim America? That’s funny, I thought minorities were given full equality under non-Mooslim laws and it is only Sharia law that oppresses minorities.

      But thanks for bringing the civil rights analogy instead of the Nazi one JCL was using because it means that at least there will be happy ending with a Christian becoming President. (There’s already been a Coptic foreign minister who later became Secretary General of the UN).

      By the way, nowhere does Loonwatch or Spencerwatch insinuate that the Copts are having a good time. They are just refuting the allegation that Egyptian society as a whole is intolerant of Christians, whereas it is clear there are numerous instances of Muslims showing solidarity with Christians. We know the situation is bad, that there is hatred of Copts but we also recognise that tragedies such as the attack on a Church should not be used to justify more bigotry.

    • Ah, your hollow link finally brought up the picture.

      Your picture:

      oppressor joining the oppressed out of guilt

      My picture:

      The oppressed joining the oppressors out of unity

        • Can LW and SW please refrain from posting anymore positive news about Christians ans Muslims coming together? It’s causing our resident loon quite alot of mental anguish. I mean, the loon had to dig into the civil rights movement in America to come to his warped conclusion that a muslim and christian coming together cannot possibly be viewed as positive. Please, for the sake of our loon.

  3. “Sure. Just as I would shame someone who claimed that Negroes really had it good in the 50′s, 60′s and 70′s in White America – living in peace with their White neighbors and Whites fully embracing and tolerating the Black community.”

    Well, I don’t believe Muslims made Christians their slaves for 400 years, so I don’t think there is that much animosity and disunity as you are hoping for. As a matter of facts, Copts use to be slave traders. But the US is a democracy which has been far more dynamic with social issues where Egypt has never been so it hasn’t created the atmosphere for better unity. So your analogy fails on several levels. If Egypt does move towards a real secular democracy I think it we’ll see far more unity..

    “Rather, I would prefer LW/SW not insult a Westerner’s intelligence with such North Korea-esque propaganda pieces. ”

    The only insult here is your constant attempts to create divisions between Muslims and Christians, and using Copts as your little pawns pretending to care for them.

    “What evidence does Emperor have that a majority of Egypt’s Muslims are willing to stand up for religious freedom”

    If some sort of democratic republic is created, then you don’t even need a majority. But that’s up to the next government to decide. I’m hoping for a democratic government which gives freedom to all…you on the other hand what to see a dictator stay in power or a theocracy come in power, for spite. You really don’t have any shame.

  4. JihadBob is just embarrassed that Copts are on the Muslim’s side and protesting against Mubarak, a dictator who is supported by his heroes Spencer and Geller.

    “Sharif Kouddous of Democracy Now! tweets: “Muslim Brotherhood chanting Allah Akbar. Crowd stopped them chanting louder: Muslim, Christian, we’re all Egyptian #Egypt””

    Let’s ignore the people reporting from Cairo and instead listen to people who are comfortably sitting in the US under a democracy and making considerable profit from bigotry. Yeah, I mean Spencer.
    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/robert-spencer-david-horowitz-cash-in-on-hate/

    • It’s pretty amazing. 90% of Egypt is Muslim. They are the power. They don’t need the Christians to overthrow Mubarak and create a new government. Yet here they are, uniting together not for propaganda purposes but for genuine unity. And JahilBob calls it a shame.

  5. “Was this the modern, democratic, civilised, non-Mooslim America? That’s funny, I thought minorities were given full equality under non-Mooslim laws and it is only Sharia law that oppresses minorities. ”

    Mo,You gotta cut some America some slack. We’ve been through alot. I mean, the Christian Europeans came to America to conquer the infidel barbarian natives with papal blessing:

    http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/491/christian-doctrine-and-dehumanization

    Somebody was talking about religion and perpetual warfare in another website, then abandoned it….but that’s another tale.

    Oh, and the current Pope Benedict XVI denied there ever even was a genocide and claimed the natives were “silently longing” for Christianity, but let’s stay on topic….

    Anyways, several 100s of years of slavery, war, discrimination…and this is in a secular democracy mind you. But through it all, we’ve reached a point were our government against and battles discrimination towards black, jews and yes..even mooslims. It’s a great country, and we could only hope Egypt and other arab countries will follow.

  6. Just chill out, Bob. We know that you realize you and your buddy in bigotry, Robert Spencer, are looking like total assholes by supporting Mubarak. Using a racially charged word offensive to many blacks isn’t helping you either.

    BTW, why are you so upset when Christians die but regard the deaths of Muslims as a joke? The former is obviously understandable, the latter is outright dusgusting.

    • The Christians appeared to have been pecifically targeted because of their religion – according to the report I read, at least.

      Modern society says there’s a difference between hate crimes that target individuals or groups because of their race/religion/gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation from crimes that don’t.

      • Modern society says there’s a difference between hate crimes that target individuals or groups because of their race/religion/gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation from crimes that don’t.

        Yet you still say Islamophobia doesn’t exist Bob?

        And from what I can see, the details of the incident in question are scarce, and hardly lead to the conclusion that it’s a MB or other ‘Islamist’ plot.

        As has also happened at ‘translating jihad’, Spencer in his JW post did not provide the whole article for his readers to digest. The full article is here. Interesting points emerge:

        Anba Agathon, Bishop of Maghagha, told Coptic activist Dr. Mona Roman in a televised interview on Al-Karma TV that the killers are their neighbors, who seized the opportunity of the mayhem prevailing in Egypt and the absence of police protection to slaughter the Copts. He said that he visited today the four injured Copts, who escaped death despite being shot, at Maghagha General Hospital and they told him that they recognized the main attackers as they come from the same village of Sharona. They gave the Bishop details of what happened.

        “The two families were staying in their homes with their doors locked when suddenly the Islamists descended on them,” said Bishop Agathon, “killing eleven and leaving for dead four other family members. In addition, they looted everything that was in the two Coptic houses, including money, furniture and electrical equipment. They also looted livestock and grain.”

        The Bishop denied any vendetta between the Copts and the Muslims. He called on the police to arrest the Islamist perpetrators immediately, as everyone knows they are the neighbors of the victims. He said “The massacre has nothing to do with the mayhem in Egypt, but the murderers took advantage of the lack of police protection and thought they could commit their crime and no one would notice.”

        Coptic activist Dr. Hanna Hanna views the Mubarak era with its policy of impunity to be the cause of why Copts are targeted. “Why have those Islamists chosen those two Coptic families and not Muslim ones to slaughter and rob? I believe it is because they know that with Copts they can literally get away with murder.”

        Yet you argued that the Copts have a major stake in supporting the Mubarak regime? Which is it?

        As some of the comments from the YaLibnan.Com article which also reporterd this stated:

        “This is Mubarak’s last dirty trick. Attacking coptics to divert attention away from the revolution,and telling the world that the Islamists will take over will not work.”

        “What barbarians. Before my fellow Christians start preaching the wonders of the Bible, let us not forget the endless list of Christian tyrants who savaged and murdered in numbers that make this look like a grain of sand. Regardless of religion, there are always the twisted and evil beings who seek to hide behind their faith to inflict hatred. May God condemn them all to hell.”

        “I wish you can give the msg to these hard core uneducated islamist xtreamist to forgive and love your neighbour and your enemy. I have friend who are Muslim and they are forgiving and loving but these political driven morans are going to bring ISLAM to its knees because we can only take so much and revolt will come. Peace to all people.”

        “Copts live everywhere in Egypt and they will not leave their homes to go and live in a setup state like the jews did in israel.
        All they need is a government that sees and protects them equally as the rest of the religions there. I have been to Egypt twice and it is a beautiful country. All of them are very patriotic, copts, sunnis, Greek orthodox, etc and to a lot of them Egypt comes first unlike a lot of Lebanese.
        You see, what I respect a lot about the Egyptians, is that anything that has to do with them is Egptian. For example, they speak Egyptian, they eat Egyptian food, they watch Egyptian movies, they are Egyptian even before they are Arabs.”

      • How does that in any way address that fact you regard the deaths of civilian Muslims as a joke? You’ve even, for example, condoned celebrating the deaths of civilian Muslims who lose their lives in war. The aforementioned highlights how dehumanized Muslims have become in your mind—which is direct result of the hours spent brainwashing yourself on anti-Muslim hate sites.

        • He doesn’t care about Muslims and frankly I doubt he cares about Copts. They’re all just brown people. Remember that anti-mosque demonstration in NYC where those Copts got harassed? That’s JihadBob mentality.

          But in Egypt, Christians and Muslims are getting together in harms way for freedom and democracy. And Islamophobes in the safety of their own homes in the US are hating it and calling the reporting of it a shame.

  7. Interestingly:

    “There was a rather foolish decision made by some of the clergy of the major religious minority in Egypt: the Coptic Church. Historically, the Church was politically netrual, as many argued it should be alongside the Azhar University and the religious leaders of all in Egypt. But that changed in recent years, and in this protest, the Church came heavily out in favor of Mubarak’s continued rule. In so doing, it made clear that they were in favor of a status quo that the overwhelming majority of Egyptians were seeking to change, including Christian Egyptians.”

      • So wait a minute Bob. You have been moaning about how Christians are treated in Egypt over and over again on this and other threads. Yet you are now defending them for seeking to maintain the status quo (i.e. supporting a corrupt and heinous dictator who has no qualms about killing his own nations citizens, or torturing them) when they could actually contribute fruitfully to a new more democratic Egyptian state?

        Thankfully not all Copts agree with their church on this and many have been protesting in Tahrir Square along with their co-citizens.

      • Personally, I just think that your house of cards is crumbling because you can’t accuse Mubarak’s regime of representing Egyptian let alone Muslim sentiment any further in its government policies (including heinous treatment of Copts), so now you are trying to play the MB/Islamist boogeyman card. Unfortunately for you their presence at the protests have been minimal, and their slogan shouting was drowned-out by unified nationalism.

  8. And also:

    “The Friday congregational prayer is one of those canonical observances for all Muslim men resident in a locality. Muslim women are recommended to go, but it’s not a compulsory observance. It was thus extra-ordinary that today, the Mufti of Egypt declared that if one wanted to avoid going to Friday prayers tomorrow, it would be religiously permissible for one to do so. Many are taking that as a sign that indeed, tomorrow could be the scene of a great deal of violence, and that the religious requirement to protect one’s self would override the normative obligation to attend Friday prayers.

    I know that the Mufti’s statement will put a lot of people at ease, though I suspect that for those for whom it will actually be dangerous to attend Friday prayers, they will ignore it. And those that do heed the Mufti’s words, will not be in a dangerous situation where they are.

    In stark contrast, Yusuf al-Qaradawi of Qatar argued that it was religiously compulsory to attend protests after prayers tomorrow. Yet again, however, it seems clear—the people on the streets, whether defending their homes, or protesting (regardless of the side) might be praying, but they’re not listening to any religious leader in particular.

    One sector of society might be paying attention: and those are the fans of al-Qaradawi from within the religious establishment. He gave them an additional message today—protect Egypt’s churches, and make sure no one attacks them, in order to incite inter-communal strife during this time.

    No one is sure what evidence he has that might happen tomorrow, but that’s somewhat irrelevant to the fact that the most popular religious figure for the Muslim Brotherhood is calling for the churches of Egypt to be protected. That’s got to say something about inter-religious harmony in this country.

  9. because you can’t accuse Mubarak’s regime of representing Egyptian let alone Muslim sentiment any further in its government policies (including heinous treatment of Copts)

    Sorry, but Dr. JCL would be the first to point out that the bigotry against Christians in Egypt is actually held in check by Mubarak’s regime.

    Whatever laws against Christians (official and unofficial) are approved by the majority of Egypt’s Muslim population.

    Unless you want others to believe the government restricts Christian rights despite the popular will of the people.

    http://pewforum.org/Government/Global-Restrictions-on-Religion-Roundtable-Event.aspx#2

    • I would rather believe that Dr JCL would submit that the situation is very complex, cannot be generalised and needs to be tackled with academic nuance. But his opinion is irrelevant to the issue anyway, it’s merely one among the others in the realm of competing ideas and conceptions of what reality on the ground is like in Egypt at present.

      The fact that Copts are persecuted, whilst others are happy to protest alongside their Muslim co-citizens, shows that the situation is not black and white.

    • And hold on a minute… you’re using PEW results to support your argument? I thought all polls were nonsense and inaccurate Bob?

      You want us to accept your reading of poll results but you summarily dismiss clear statements made in the poll reports themselves.

      What’s with that?

    • If you are so worried about the Copts then why are you so hostile to Muslims who actually support giving them more rights? Quite obviously, you’re using the situation of the Copts to justify denying Egyptians democracy (which is, ironically, what the Copts want) as well as a tool to justify your own bigotry, which is undeniable.

    • As I said above:

      And hold on a minute… you’re using PEW results to support your argument? I thought all polls were nonsense and inaccurate Bob?

      You want us to accept your reading of poll results but you summarily dismiss clear statements made in the poll reports themselves.

      What’s with that?

      • I already discussed this the last time – remember Lebanon’s support for suicide bombers and my discounting these figures, especially when compared to nations like Pakistan?

        • Also please answer, little Bob, my questions pertaining to your profound hypocrisy. Why are you ranting about supposed anti-Christian sentiment when you yourself undoubtedly hold anti-Muslim beliefs? Do you think that it’s okay to hate Muslims but not Christians? Why do desire to ethnically cleanse an entire country simply because the population was Islamicized over 600 years ago? More importantly, posters on Loonwatch don’t express any genocidal sentiments that you and your Islamophobic buddies express. Again, throwing stones from glass houses makes you look even more bigoted than you already are.

    • Anyone notice that according to Bob’s poll, social hostilities against religion are higher in Israel than in Egypt (and Saudi Arabia!!)

      Only democracy in the Middle East…

      And government restrictions on religion n Egypt will also include Muslims, most notably Salafis who the government loves to hate. In fact, they tortured one to death after the bombings on the Coptic Church. It’s always nice to know Spencer is looking out for Egyptians’ human rights…

  10. It’s difficult to see how they measured something like that, but the facts are clear, Copts are persecuted by the government and face extreme hostility from the population at large.

    Every report on the issue shows that Copts face extreme persecution, officially from the state or unofficial state persecution, where local authorities apply their own rules to persecute the Copts. There’ s also frequent vigilante violence and widespread support by Muslims, including calls by Muslim clerics, for Copts to remain a persecuted minority in Egypt.

    There was also a recent report done by the US government that said Copts face discrimination and persecution. Interestingly enough, al-Azhar demanded that Copts tell the US government that they really don’t have it so bad!

    That should speak volumes for how willing Muslims are to address grievances and work for change – none at all. Then again, when ‘moderate’ Muslims blamed a suicide bombing attack at a Church on the Mossad, it was pretty clear that Muslims weren’t willing or able to confront their own bigotry that fed into the creation of this suicide bomber or the terrorist cell that supported this operation.

    The chickens are coming home to roost in Egypt. 11 more bodies on the altar of intolerance.

      • I asked him to address his own bigotry several times on this thread but he’s unwilling to. He’d rather project his own traits onto others.

    • Firstly, I agree with you that the situation for the Copts is very bad and utterly unacceptable, especially from an Islamic perspective.

      Secondly, I completely reject you using the bigotry directed at the Copts as an excuse to portray Muslims as intolerant of non-Muslim minorities and hence justify intolerance of Muslims. This concept of using injustices against non-Muslims in the Muslim world to justify injustices against Muslims in the non-Muslim world was especially clear when Islamophobes demanded that a synagogue be built in Mecca if Muslims want to build an Islamic centre with a prayer space in it on “hallowed ground”. Funny how no one demanded a mosque before a large number of Churches could be built in Iraq after the invasion, on land that had seen American bombing.

      “That should speak volumes for how willing Muslims are to address grievances and work for change – none at all.”

      Utter BS. How can you say “none at all” when Muslims such as the Grand Mufti of Egypt have condemned the atrocity and when many Muslims turned up at Christmas Mass in Coptic Churches as “human shields”. This is also being seen in the protests where Muslims protected Copts in their Churches as they prayed as Copts protected Muslims whilst they prayed in their mosques.

      Indeed there is a lot of intolerance for Copts, but there is much resistance from Muslims against such obscene laws such as the ones requiring permission to build staircases. IF anything, Muslims should be sympathetic to the Copts because the Palestinians face the same restrictions when building mosques in Israel.

      How can you say that “moderate” Muslims are silent when you have articles like “J’accuse” by respected Egyptian journalist Hani Shukrallah. An article that was featured on jihadwatch, not to demonstrate how there are some Muslims against the bombing, but instead to use his article as “proof” that all Muslims are responsible.

      http://english.ahram.org.eg/UI/Front/NewsContentP/4/2977/Opinion/J%E2%80%99accuse.aspx

      “when ‘moderate’ Muslims blamed a suicide bombing attack at a Church on the Mossad”

      Explains why a Salafi Muslim was tortured to death in the following investigation.

      “it was pretty clear that Muslims weren’t willing or able to confront their own bigotry ”

      Do read the article.

  11. Explains why a Salafi Muslim was tortured to death in the following investigation.

    Probably because I was referring to the beliefs of the general Egyptian population.

    Do read the article.

    Good article. I like where the author, who is a rabidly anti-Western, anti-Israel, non-Muslim Egyptian, said:

    But most of all, I accuse the millions of supposedly moderate Muslims among us; those who’ve been growing more and more prejudiced, inclusive and narrow minded with every passing year.

    I accuse those among us who would rise up in fury over a decision to halt construction of a Muslim Center near ground zero in New York, but applaud the Egyptian police when they halt the construction of a staircase in a Coptic church in the Omranya district of Greater Cairo.

    I’ve been around, and I have heard you speak, in your offices, in your clubs, at your dinner parties: “The Copts must be taught a lesson,” “the Copts are growing more arrogant,” “the Copts are holding secret conversions of Muslims”, and in the same breath, “the Copts are preventing Christian women from converting to Islam, kidnapping them, and locking them up in monasteries.”

    I accuse you all, because in your bigoted blindness you cannot even see the violence to logic and sheer common sense that you commit; that you dare accuse the whole world of using a double standard against us, and are, at the same time, wholly incapable of showing a minimum awareness of your own blatant double standard.

    • Yeah, that is a Muslim who is not blaming foreign powers for the attack, but accepting that it was a product of the bigotry that exists in Egyptian society. Leave it to an Islamophobe to find some problem in that.

      And what are you’re right to quote that part, because that is the most important part. Why are you pretending like we don’t know about the anti-Copt sentiment that is in many parts of Egyptian society? Would I really have given you an article without having thoroughly read it myself?

      But the fact that he is to willing to “address grievances and work for change “, which is what you claimed Egyptian Muslims weren’t doing, disproves your point.

      “Probably because I was referring to the beliefs of the general Egyptian population.”

      No comment on the use of torture by the Mubarak government? No? It’s okay, it’s not the first time Islamophobes have supported dictators with an appalling human rights record.

      Do you have anything to back-up this claim that generally people are believing it to be done by “Mossad”?

      The police and the authorities didn’t blame Mossad, although they were quick to blame the Shark attacks on them (lol).

  12. Any proof that this author is rabidly “anti-Western, anti-Israel”? Also, since we’re on the topic of your hypocrisy, you should know that you’re hardly one to label someone “rabidly anti-anything”, because there are few phrases that describe you better than rabidly anti-Muslim. You’ve referred to Muslims as “fascists”, “horrible people”, and have supported “secretly celebrating” their deaths. You’ve also supported ethnically cleansing an entire country of its Muslim population in order to replace them with Christians and have suggested that a Shiite Loonwatch commentator swim to Iran with weights (I’m guessing you wanted him to drown). The fact that you so far haven’t answered any questions pertaining to your hypocrisy shows that you indeed understand your position is indefensible.

    But most of all, I accuse the millions of supposedly moderate Muslims among us; those who’ve been growing more and more prejudiced, inclusive and narrow minded with every passing year.

    Muslims have been for years condemning and fighting against terrorism that was a reaction to Western foreign policies, yet that’s still not enough—many Islamophobes like Spencer and JihadBob have made it clear that Muslims should abandon their faith in order to be accepted by bigoted, far right loons. Other popular far right wingers, like Ann Coulter and Michael Savage, are just as open about their intentions, and have suggested that Muslims be converted [by force] to Christianity in order to make them “human”. Still, other ideologues from the Western world realize that this option isn’t realistic, which is why they’ve suggested that the Muslim world be obliterated via nuclear annihilation. These luminaries include Walid Shoebat, who is quite popular amongst the Islamophobic crowd.

    Of course, all the aforementioned loons will still accuse others of being intolerant. It’s unfortunate that they’re not perceptive enough to see the irony.

    I accuse those among us who would rise up in fury over a decision to halt construction of a Muslim Center near ground zero in New York, but applaud the Egyptian police when they halt the construction of a staircase in a Coptic church in the Omranya district of Greater Cairo.

    Yet again, Bob doesn’t see the irony. He’s against the construction of mosques in the United States but is furious when Muslims are against churches. The same can be said for Spencer and everyone else who posted this rant on their respective hate sites. In contrast to the aforementioned loons, most Muslims on Loonwatch are all for the contruction of mosques and churches in both Egypt and the United States.

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