Deacon Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller Lie About “Muslim Mob” Attacking Jews in Australia

Deacon Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller Lie About “Muslim Mob” Attacking Jews in Australia

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By Garibaldi

Rev. Deacon Robert Spencer and Pamela “the looniest blogger ever” Geller both ran a story titled,Australia: Muslim mob severely injures five Jews in an unprovoked anti-Semitic Attack. The original story is about a Jewish family in Australia that was assaulted and racially taunted by a group of “youth” as they were headed home after a Sabbath dinner. (h/t: Ramey E.)

In Spencer and Geller’s account the news reports on the incident were hiding the “real” identities of the youth as part of a media conspiracy to protect Islam and Muslims.

Spencer’s article claimed that,

True to form, the mainstream media doesn’t mention the identity of the perpetrators, but that in itself is a clue as to who they were: if the attackers had been neo-Nazis, the Herald would have had no trouble saying that. Only when it comes to Muslims do “brawls” and “bombings” and “violence” just happen by themselves, with no clear perp. Also, the mention of the facts that the attack was “racially motivated” and in a “multicultural area” makes clear the identity of these “youths” (a common mainstream media term for violent young Muslims in any case).

One of the idiotic aspects to this aside from its conspiratorial and baseless nature is that the media often gets matters related to Islam and Muslims horrifically wrong (take the recent example of “Sexual Jihad“) and does its utmost to perpetuate sensationalist headlines (the Daily Beast article on “Muslim Patrols“) that have little to no grounding in reality.

Geller in her usual hate-filled ranting added a bit of innuendo and fear-mongering to juice up the lies she was about to peddle labeling it as evidence of “Islamic antisemitism,”

Wherever Muslim immigration increases, so do attacks on Jews. Everywhere.

The story has been picked up by the Islamophobe network and beyond, hence creating greater ignorance and hatred.

When the extremely Right-Wing, Sheldon “Nuke Iran” Adelson owned newspaper Israel Hayomstated that the perpetrators of the attack were not Muslim, Geller wrote:

[M]edia fastidiousness about identifying perpetrators from groups that enjoy politically correct victim status is now extending to other groups as well.

In reality this attack had nothing to do with “Islam” or “Islamic movements” as Australian police made clear but I guess they are just foolish dhimmis.

According to police and one of the youths parents those who took part in the assault on the Jewish family are bostom_Robert_Spencerpart of a gang and had been partying and drinking all night, not really the norm of what is associated with “Islamic” behavior.

For some reason when Spencer and Geller see any violence by alcohol fueled gangs in an “immigrant” area they immediately think: Muslims.

I happen to think Spencer probably types half of his blog-posts inebriated. It would explain a lot.

By Mark Morri & Taylor Auerbach, The Australian

TWO Sydney teenagers accused making racial taunts during an alleged assault on a Jewish family and two of their friends were on bail at the time for assaulting a police officer.

Just weeks before allegedly calling the group “f…ing Jews” and assaulting them, the two 17-year-olds were charged with using unlawful violence against Constable Chun-Yuan Shieh and a number of others at Coogee beach on a Saturday at 11pm.

They were also charged with affray for assaulting the police officer in the execution of his duty on September 7.

The pair were part of a group of eight mainly Pacific Islander youths who have been charged with attacking the family and friends walking home from a Sabbath Dinner just after midnight on Saturday morning at Bondi. A 23-year-old was arrested and charged on the night before being released to appear in court on December 3.

The remaining five are still being hunted by police who are now scouring CCTV footage in the area near Blair and Glenayr Streets where the attack took place.

A 27-year-old man, his father, 66, and mother, 62 along with two other males aged 48 and 39, all ended up being hospitalised after the attack suffering from concussion, fractured bones, bleeding on the brain and serious abrasions.

The mother of one of the accused said her son was not a racist and she works at a Jewish nursing home.

She said her son struggles with alcohol addiction and only got out of juvenile detention last week.

“He’s been in a lot of trouble,” she said yesterday.

“When he’s at home he’s not racist but when they get together they like to pick on people, it only takes drinking.”

Her son is part of a “gang” that often uses her residence as a place to sleep.

“What can I do? I’ve already told him not to drink but you can only do so much.

“I’m really, really upset. I’m worried about him because I haven’t seen him … He’s a loving boy. He’s like Dr Jekkyl an Mr Hyde.

“I spoke to him (Sunday) night, I said ‘boy you’re naughty’ and he said ‘yeah mum but it’s not my fault’.

“According to my son, he stops the fights.”

The mother said the gang had been drinking at a party on Bondi Beach on the night of the alleged bashing and described his friendship with the co-accused as “very, very, very, very close.”

“He’s just got out of (juvenile detention) last week.

“When he was 16 he was in there for a very long time … for robbery at a train station.”

The two teenagers were yesterday refused bail when they appeared in Bidura children’s court and ordered to reappear next month.

Senior police emphasised that those allegedly involved in the attack had nothing to do with any Islamic movements.

The family also released a statement calling for tolerance.

“We thank God that we are alive,” the family said.

“Our overriding concern is that such an attack should not happen again – to anyone. Our objective at this time is not vengeance, but justice and concern. We want justice to be done in regard to the perpetrators. And we are concerned about the need for the education of future generations about the importance of goodwill and tolerance, and the need for society to embrace those concepts. We would like to see proactive measures in that regard.

“People should be free to walk the streets in safety, without fear of being attacked because of the colour of their skin or the race to which they belong.

“We wish to thank the police for their fast response on the night of the incident, as well as St Vincent’s Hospital emergency staff, the ambulance service, the shopkeepers who offered assistance, the locals who tried to help, the hotel bouncers who eventually came to our aid. We also thank the Premier, Opposition Leader, ministers, shadow ministers, MPs and leaders of the many faith groups and organisations across the wider community which have expressed support and concern. We also thank friends and members of the community. The support is deeply appreciated and reminds us that what occurred is not what Australia is about.

The Jewish community is still in shock over the attack.”

Crumbling “Counterjihad”? EDL, SION, SIOA and the Transatlantic Kerfuffle

Robert Spencer - Kevin Carroll - Pamela Geller - Stephen Yaxley-Lennon - Stockholm August 2012

Crumbling “Counterjihad”? EDL, SION, SIOA and the Transatlantic Kerfuffle

By Garibaldi

We have noted the unstable nature of the “counter-jihad” fascist movement since the day Loonwatch began. Cracks and fissures between various groups and websites were apparent from the start.

One of the first to depart the “counter-Jihad” was Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs (LGF) who has continued to expose the extremism of former allies Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller.

It was Charles Johnson who first alerted us to the fact that Robert Spencer had joined a group calling for the extermination of Turks and the Reconquista of Anatolia. For this revelation Spencer and Geller have been relentless in their vitriolic demonization of Johnson, regarding him not only as an apostate but also– their favorite epithet– “dhimmi.”

The reasons for the inherent instability in the “counter-Jihad” reflects the fissures in ideological make up between the various personalities, as well as incongruities between their inflated egos.

A brief history of the internecine civil wars amongst the counter-Jihad on this point is informative: Debbie Schlussel vs.: Brigitte GabrielPamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Zuhdi JasserWalid Shoebat, etc. Logan’s Warning against Brigitte GabrielSpencer vs. Andrew BostomRoberta Moore of the JDL vs. the EDL and now the latest kerfuffle: Geller and Spencer vs. Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll.

All that binds them is Islamomisia and Islamophobia. On the surface their ideological backgrounds provide a motive: a belief in the need to preserve Christianity in the face of post-Modernity and a rise in Secular Humanism, a belief that it is good for Israel and Zionism, a desire to keep White Europe pure, the nostalgic belief that they are the vanguard “defenders of freedom” who will not only save the “West” from a resurgent Islam but harken in a golden age and if not–Armageddon.

When you dig a little deeper underneath the surface of ideology and identity politics one sees there is another more primitive motive at work; garnering dead presidents and Euros.

Recenlty, I have taken an interest in the famous medieval Muslim theologian Ghazali who it seems to me has identified, in universal terms, the reasons for the sickness that pervades the Islamophobia movement:

“The greatest of all desires is ravenousness, the source of all spiritual maladies, followed, in second order, by lasciviousness. Ardently seeking to fulfill these desires inevitably involves one in garnering wealth, in turn leading to indulgence in both spheres. It appears Ghazali posits a causal link between these two instincts, on the one hand, and the personal desire to acquire power and influence, on the other. To protect wealth and power, it is inevitable for the covetous individual to engage in competition and envy, which in turn engender greed, hypocrisy, arrogance, and hatred. And once these become habits of the soul, it is a short step for the individual to be implicated in morally repugnant acts.” (Hallaq, The Impossible State, p.131)

“Counter-Jihad” is a lucrative business as the reports by Fear, inc. and CAIR have made plain. The economy of Islamophobia isn’t going out of business anytime soon as long as wealthy Right-Wing foundations and individuals continue to support the industry.

Ex-EDL Tommy Robinson/Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and Kevin Carroll Haven’t Changed

It has been two weeks since the announcement by former EDL chief Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll that they were leaving the organization. In that time there have been several major developments, including the supposed termination of an official relationship between Geller/Spencer and Robinson and even accusations that Robinson is a poster boy for “stealth Jihad.” (h/t: Jai Singh)

Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll’s closest international allies, Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, have publicly terminated their involvement with them and thrown them off the board of their “SION Presidents Council”. Geller has announced this in an article published on her Atlas Shrugs website.

The reason is partly due to Robinson and Carroll’s current involvement with Quilliam and Mo Ansar(Geller’s full article provides further details), but apparently it also has a lot to do with some statements Robinson made to The Daily Beast, specifically the reasons that he has been refusing to publicly denounce Spencer & Geller. Furthermore, Geller herself makes some accusations about the real reasons for Robinson’s resignation from the EDL.

Pamela Geller: A month ago, Tommy Robinson called me…..Not being on the ground in the UK, and having worked with him at a distance for four years, I understood his concerns, and looked forward to a new organization — perhaps even SIO-England. I did not know when he was going to make his move away from the EDL, and he did not tell me. The only thing he told me was that he was going to make the break before his upcoming court case — perhaps to incur the sympathy of the court.

Then, the night before he made his announcement, Tommy tried to contact me numerous times on Skype and by phone while I was busy with other matters. It was clear that it was urgent. Finally, we spoke on the phone, and it was on that phone call that he told me that he would be resigning from the EDL the next day, and that the Quilliam Foundation was going to be at the press conference — but he made that a minor point. I had no idea that it was a Quilliam press conference, and certainly had no idea that Tommy and Kevin Carroll would be led around like dogs 0n a leash. It was after that phone call, and before I had any idea that Tommy would be closely allying with false moderate Muslim deceivers who would crow about “decapitating the EDL,” that Robert Spencer and I composed our first statement, supporting Tommy and his decision. We never would have come out in support of him if we had known that he would soon be parroting politically correct nonsense about “extremists on both sides.”

Tommy told me that his move would not be announced until 6PM London time the next day, and asked me to hold our statement until then, but when I woke up the next morning, it was already all over the international media. That was the first indication that he had not been entirely up front with me about what was happening. Then at the press conference, both he and Kevin Carroll were the showcases of a Quilliam victory dance.

…..I only subsequently learned, after releasing our initial statement of support, that he had been meeting with Islamic supremacist deceivers like Mo Ansar for 18 months, and was taking instruction on Islam from the false moderates of the Quilliam Foundation. And I didn’t hear about it from Tommy, who never gave me any hint of any of this — I read about it in the press along with everyone else.

…..He made a deal with the devil. He didn’t want to go back to jail, and this looks like his bid to stay out.

Today at the Daily Beast, the gleeful reporter doesn’t quote Robinson, but says that he “distanced himself from some of Geller’s most egregious remarks.” I challenge the Daily Beast reporter to produce the quotes. What exactly did Tommy distance himself from? And then he quotes Tommy explaining why he won’t denounce me now: “I went to America to speak at one of their events. I feel indebted to Pamela. I have a great deal of respect for her personally because she helped my family when I was in custody. She provided a roof over our head.” This cop-out from Tommy — that he wouldn’t denounce me because I supported him financially — was the lowest blow of all. I was not supporting the EDL financially. We gave some money to his wife and kids when Tommy was in jail. And Tommy has said that before, implying that his loyalty was bought, and was not because of ideological agreement. He’s been using the quiet help I gave to his wife and kids as one mom to another. I didn’t do that for the organization. I did that as a human being.

It is clear what is happening. Now he is the poster boy for the stealth jihad. It seems they have taught Tommy well. His deception to friends and colleagues mirrors the Islamic teachings of kitman (lie by omission) and taqiyya. So Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll are no longer on the SION board.

According to the Huffington Post Robinson has claimed that the EDL’s publicly pro-Israel stance was to garnish support and “attract funding from Zionist organizations.” [which failed to materialize in the way that he had hoped]

Robinson also appeared as a guest on the BBC’s “Sunday Morning Live” program on October 13th, discussing “Does the English Defence League represent a view that needs to be heard?”:

– There is very little change in Robinson’s anti-Muslim views. He is simply expressing them more carefully.
– Throughout the discussion, Robinson essentially continues accusing the entire Muslim population of collective guilt and collective responsibility.
– 12m 30s: Robinson describes the Quran as “extremely evil”.
– 20m 08s: Robinson claims “There are two types of Muslims: Radicals/extremists and apologists”.
– 21m 10s onwards: Robinson enthusiastically praises the EDL, including its current demonstrations.
– Debate continues from 53m 40s onwards: Robinson claims that he will not give the Police any incriminating “inside information” on EDL members.

Robinson has not changed, he admits that he is only shifting tactics.:BWcKzlBCUAApM_S

Screenshot of Robinson’s comment on his new Twitter account on 12 October 2013, responding to a member of the EDL’s “Oldham Division”, stating “I’ll continue the fight, and wake up the nation”:

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Spencer and Geller have co-authored a detailed statement, cross-published on their respective websites. They excoriate Robinson for being an ignorant, gullible lad who has facilitated the “decapitation of the EDL” and has capitulated to the government funded Quilliam which they laughably describe as representing the “forces of Jihad and Islamic supremacism.”

Richard Bartholomew has also published an excellent article highlighting Spencer & Geller’s other statements on the matter, including Spencer’s confirmation that Robinson “has repeatedly stated that he hasn’t changed his views.”

Robert Spencer himself has now written an article on these developments. Spencer’s indignant, confused and “betrayed” reaction is definitely worth reading. Seems that Robinson’s “secret” discussions with the popular British Muslim commentator Mo Ansar during the past 18 months are a particularly sore point.

Tommy Robinson is continuing to refuse to denounce Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller.

TellMAMA’s new article documenting Robinson’s continuing behaviour on his new Twitter account. Take particular note of the recent screenshot where Robinson claims that his time with Mo Ansar has actually strengthened his opposition to Islam.

Note on the Quilliam Foundation:

The Guardian has an excellent summary of the plausible reasons for the organization’s new found involvement with Robinson and Carroll, specifically detailing the problems that Quilliam has recently been experiencing.

Another Guardian article includes revealing information about “the next steps” involving Quilliam and Robinson, including the fact that Robinson has contradicted his statements on the BBC regarding cooperation with the Police:

[Maajid] Nawaz said he would work to introduce [Tommy] Robinson to his own contacts in government and the Home Office in an attempt to procure government funding. Robinson said his future work would involve taking on radicalism on all fronts, although he could not support anti-fascist groups because they also subscribed to “communism” or were “anarchists”.

When pressed as to whether he would work with the police to root out criminal racists in the group he helped form four years ago, he agreed he would now talk to the authorities.

Robinson, whose financial assets have been frozen because of ongoing criminal proceedings for public order offences, said he did not doubt he would be successful again in any endeavour he pursued as long as he was passionate about it.

Tommy Robinson’s EDL Resignation was Disingenuous Nonsense

Tommy Robinson of the English Defense League (EDL)

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by Matthew Goodwin (Guardian)

On Tuesday, the resignation of two of the most senior English Defence League leaders, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (AKA Tommy Robinson) and Kevin Carroll, was remarkable because of what did not happen. There was no repudiation of the EDL’s beliefs, or goals. There was no criticism of EDL foot soldiers, who were held up by Lennon as “the best people in my life”. There was no sense of remorse for the impact and financial cost that EDL rallies have had on (already devastated) working-class communities up and down the country. There was no rejection of leading Islamophobes in Britain and elsewhere, whom the EDL have worked closely with. But most striking was that there was no shift whatsoever in Lennon’s own views. Asked by an extremely passive Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight whether he had changed his beliefs, Lennon dodged the question, saying, “I want people to listen to my views. I see this as a step forward”.

Instead, what did happen was a remarkable display of disingenuous nonsense, backed up by the counter-extremism thinktank the Quilliam foundation, itself founded by ex-extremists who have seen the light and – to be blunt – should know better. In just 24 hours we were told we were witnessing a huge success for community relations, but then learned that, actually, Lennon plans to establish a new anti-Islamist movement, which we assume will adhere to his slapdash generalisations of sharia law and misinterpretations of the Qur’an. We were told how this was about keeping extremists at bay, but then assured by Lennon that EDL activists are “decent people” and that this was the next phase in his group’s evolution. We were told this was about fighting extremism in Britain, then given a list of reasons by Lennon that were entirely self-interested: reflections on his life in prison; concern about his family’s safety; and an acknowledgment he had become powerless to control his own creation, which is now infested by rightwing extremists (the most interesting statement of the day, given the Metropolitan police’s refusal to view the EDL as an extreme rightwing group).

All of these are valid reasons, of course. Across Europe, we know that what is often the most effective at disengaging people from far-right groups is not challenging their ideological worldview but helping them to achieve something more mundane: a new relationship; moving to a new town; or a steadyjob. Practitioners from Germany to the Netherlands tell me how these practical changes play a stronger role than mythical “counter-narratives” in pushing disillusioned young men out of the arms of extremists. Such a transformation is not what we saw yesterday.

A useful distinction is between disengagement, where somebody leaves an extremist group while possibly still holding the beliefs that got them involved, and deradicalisation, a difficult term that implies at least some fundamental change in how people view and make sense of the world around them. Disengaging somebody from extremist activity is easier than the more complex process of overhauling one’s values and outlook. This helps explain why so many ex-terrorists and ex-extremists never manage the transition. Instead, they hurl themselves to the other side of the spectrum, becoming just as fanatically obsessed with the promotion of democracy, fighting their former extremist brethren – or selling their latest book. And, as we saw yesterday, they often fail to comprehend personal responsibility. It’s not Lennon who is at fault, it’s the neo-Nazis who took over his group. It’s not the radical Islamist, it’s the foreign policy grievance, or the far-right extremists who attacked his mosque. And so on.

That both Lennon and Quilliam were so aggressive in advertising to the media the apparent conversion and celebrating their publicity on Twitter should speak volumes. The dignified and difficult work of counter-extremism was not really there, replaced by an uncomfortable descent into self-promotion with little evidence of substantive change. A cynic could point to the fact that both the EDL and Quilliam have had their own difficulties in recent months and that this is all a ruse to make Lennon’s warped view of Islam seem mainstream. After all, in the late 1990s one fairly prominent activist made a similar stand, complaining that demonstrations and violence were not the way forward. His name was Nick Griffin.

Serious answers to questions about how this came about, what change of views have occurred (if any) and why Lennon spent most of yesterday regurgitating his already well-known prejudices were absent. Was yesterday interesting? Perhaps, if only because it underscored what a strange place the counter-extremism industry can be. Was it a watershed moment, signifying the withdrawal of two men from a damaging movement and a poisonous set of beliefs? Not in my view.

It Took Stephen Lennon Only 4 Years to Figure Out the EDL Was Populated with Neo-Nazis & Anti-Muslim ‘Morons’

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Quilliam’s Maajid Nawaz with Stephen Lennon and Kevin Carroll.

It’s always nice to hear about the light bulb flickering on in someone’s head and at least Tommy Robinson/Stephen Lennon and Kevin Carroll are far ahead of their North American peers, Rev. Deacon Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller who likely still consider the EDL that they used to lead to be defenders of freedom.”

After 4 years it has dawned on Lennon and Carroll that the organization they lead is populated with A LOT of neo-Nazis and “anti-Muslim morons.” WE’VE BEEN TELLING YOU TOMMY!!

CriticalDragon, by way of HopeNotHate has cautioned us however that this may not be a real awakening and may in fact be a ruse.

Sure Quilliam gets to justify that government money they get and Tommy is able to shift strategy and leave the baggage of hate he has helped promote for several years now but, golly gee, we can’t just forget about the past 4 years!

(h/t: Seeker)

EDL leader Tommy Robinson QUITS and brands violent anti-Muslim supporters ‘morons’

(Express)

The counter-extremism think tank Quilliam has brokered the move with Tommy Robinson and his right hand man Kevin Carroll.Today the pair said they now wanted to resist all forms of extremism and Quilliam called for both radical Islamists and far-right supporters to follow their lead.Tommy Robinson said: “I have been considering this move for a long time because I recognise that though street demonstrations have brought us to this point, they are no longer productive.“I acknowledge the dangers of far right extremism and the ongoing need to counter Islamist ideology not with violence but with better, democratic ideas.”

Speaking on the BBC’s 5 Live radio later, he said he was tired of being associated with ”morons” who advocate violence against Muslims.

He said: “When some moron lifts up his top and has got a picture of a mosque saying boom and it’s all over the national newspapers – it’s me.

“It’s when I pick up my kids from school the parents are looking at me, judging me on that.

“That’s not what I stood for. My decision is to be true to what I stand for and whilst I want to lead a revolution against Islamist ideology I don’t want to lead a revolution against Muslims.

“I believe the revolution needs to come from within the Islamic community and they need to stand up and I believe this is a step forward not a step back.”

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