EDL ex-leader finally admits real reasons for involvement with Quilliam

Maajid Nawaz and Tommy Robinson

EDL ex-leader finally admits real reasons for involvement with Quilliam

Original Guest post by Jai Singh

As recently discussed on Loonwatch, the anti-Muslim propagandists Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller have now “wholeheartedly and unhesitatingly” re-endorsed their fellow “SION Presidents Council” member, English Defence League ex-leader Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka “Tommy Robinson”), and confirmed that they intend to continue working with him. During the summer, the British Government’s Home Secretary banned Spencer and Geller from entering the United Kingdom; they had intended to speak at a major EDL demonstration in London.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon himself has of course recently resigned from the EDL, a move publicly facilitated by Maajid Nawaz & Quilliam and covered in a high-profile BBC documentary. (Nawaz is the man sitting next to Yaxley-Lennon in the photo at the top of this article). According to the Guardian, there is speculation that Quilliam’s current actions are an attempt to secure funding; if this is indeed the case, it means that Quilliam are simultaneously working closely with an individual heavily involved with foreign extremists whom the British Government itself has banned from the UK.

An earlier Guardian article from 2010 discussed the fact that Quilliam drew up a secret list of individuals and groups they claimed were “Islamist extremists”, including one of Scotland Yard’s own counter-terrorism units, and sent this report directly to the director-general of the British Government’s Office for Security and Counter-Terrorism (OSCT), a directorate of the Home Office. Quilliam’s report was rejected and condemned by a range of senior figures, including the co-founder of the aforementioned counter-terrorism unit along with the Chairman of the Parliament’s Home Affairs Select Committee.

Readers are strongly advised to familiarise themselves with the information in the previous Loonwatch article, especially the extensive details on Robert Spencer’s inner circle and Stephen Yaxley-Lennon’s own views, actions and affiliations.

The article also included the following points:

1. What is Maajid Nawaz & Quilliam’s response ?

2. Do Maajid Nawaz & Quilliam still plan to continue working with Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, considering (a) Yaxley-Lennon’s continuing alliance with foreign extremists banned from entering the UK, (b) the fact that Yaxley-Lennon has repeatedly declared that he has not changed any of his anti-Muslim views, (c) the fact that Yaxley-Lennon has no intention of working with Quilliam for the long-term, (d) the fact that Yaxley-Lennon is simply using Quilliam as a “stepping-stone” to a new anti-Muslim organisation, devoid of the stigma of the EDL and allied to the aforementioned banned foreign extremists ?

3. The BBC are currently involving Stephen Yaxley-Lennon in at least two more documentaries: One focusing on Quilliam, and one focusing specifically on Yaxley-Lennon (titled “What Tommy Does Next”). Considering the facts detailed above, will the BBC now terminate their involvement with Yaxley-Lennon, or do they intend to continue these projects with him ? If it is the latter, will the BBC disclose the aforementioned facts to the British viewing public, especially Yaxley-Lennon’s continuing alliance with foreign extremists banned from the UK ?

Huffington Post UK Political Director Mehdi Hasan’s team have subsequently published a detailed article discussing Yaxley-Lennon and Quilliam’s replies to some of the questions raised by these issues. The article also includes some further relevant information that will be of interest to readers.

During the past few weeks, Mehdi Hasan and Guardian / Liberal Conspiracy political journalist Sunny Hundal were also involved in a heated argument with Quilliam co-founder Maajid Nawaz on Twitter regarding this subject, particularly the issue of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon’s ongoing involvement with Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller (see: hereherehereherehere and here).

STEPHEN YAXLEY-LENNON AND QUILLIAM: THE MASK FINALLY DROPS

There have been some very revealing further developments. The Far-Right “online magazine”Dispatch International have now published several articles detailing transcripts of their interview with Yaxley-Lennon.

One article in particular details the real reasons for Stephen Yaxley-Lennon’s involvement with Quilliam. The article is very incriminating indeed. In fact, Yaxley-Lennon’s statements are hugely damaging for both himself and Quilliam. The relevant extract is quoted below, with the key points highlighted in bold:

[Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/”Tommy Robinson]: “The fact is that I thought it would be a good idea to appear together with Quilliam in order to gain credibility. It is good to sit together with them and say: “We don’t hate Muslims but we have to solve our problems.”

- When I met the people from Quilliam, I realized that they could help me with a lot of things. I’m just a working class bloke from Luton. I don’t know how to set up and run a think tank and get donations. I asked if they would teach me and they said yes. They said: “You may have whatever opinions you like but you will get more out of expressing them in a more political way.”

[Dispatch International]: “Could one say that you are using them and they are using you?”

Tommy doesn’t answer but nods and grins

Mehdi Hasan has publicly confronted BBC anchor Adil Ray with Yaxley-Lennon’s statements; Adil Ray’s response and his defence of Yaxley-Lennon are worth reading (see herehere, and here, from 7 November 2013).

In any case, it is very good that Yaxley-Lennon’s statements are now a matter of public record.

In the same interview, Yaxley-Lennon also said:

“Look at what has happened since I left the EDL. Look at my new platform.”

[…..]

“What I’m saying now is the same as I’ve been saying for four and a half years.”

STEPHEN YAXLEY-LENNON REVEALS HIS LONG-TERM GAMEPLAN

According to another Dispatch International article, Yaxley-Lennon’s aim is to start a new, large-scale, so-called “working class” organisation allegedly intended to prevent what he ridiculously believes is an impending bloody civil war between Muslims and non-Muslims in the UK. Furthermore, Yaxley-Lennon also explicitly referred to “whites” and “Muslims”, demonstrating yet again that he is actually using the term “Muslim” as a codeword for “South Asian”. The same article includes the following claims by Yaxley-Lennon:

“There is a massive gap between what I can say and what the politicians can say. When I now sit with politicians in a TV studio, they may disagree with me but when the cameras are shut, they give me the thumbs up. So do many journalists who used to tear into me.”

Yaxley-Lennon also provided more details on the public launch of his new organisation, along with the financial motivations involved:

“We are thinking of a big launch where we will invite everybody and leaders of all kinds. This is what we are going to do and this is how we are going to do it. I think people are more willing to fund this than the EDL.”

Bear in mind that the BBC are currently involving Yaxley-Lennon in at least two more documentaries, one of which focuses specifically on Yaxley-Lennon’s activities to start his new organisation. The BBC are therefore providing Yaxley-Lennon with exactly the kind of high-profile platform that he was boasting about in the first Dispatch International article; Yaxley-Lennon has recently explicitly statedthat his aim is to take his agenda mainstream. However, it is currently unclear if the BBC are aware of the full scale of Yaxley-Lennon’s views, actions and affiliations.

Yaxley-Lennon has also recently given a lengthy interview to Russia’s RT news channel. The discussion included the topic of Anders Breivik. It is worth noting that Yaxley-Lennon himself is already on record as giving an interview to the Norwegian media in which he publicly praised Anders Breivik, promoted Breivik’s manifesto, and claimed Breivik’s mass-murdering terrorist attack would have been “easier to justify” if the people killed had been Muslims. Full details here and here.

QUILLIAM’S MAAJID NAWAZ CONTINUES DEFENDING STEPHEN YAXLEY-LENNON

On 8 November 2013, Maajid Nawaz stated on Twitter: “As a Muslim I don’t consider [Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/”Tommy Robinson”] Islamophobic any longer.”

However, as mentioned previously, Yaxley-Lennon himself is now on record as making the following statement to Dispatch International:

“What I’m saying now is the same as I’ve been saying for four and a half years.”

Yaxley-Lennon is also on record as recently confirming this during the aforementioned interview with Russia’s RT news channel:

“Actually, my stance [towards Islam] hasn’t dampened or softened at all – if people listen to what I say.”

For Maajid Nawaz’s benefit and for the public record, examples of Yaxley-Lennon’s views are listed below:

1. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, posting on Twitter, 22 May 2013: “Islam is not a religion of peace, it never has been and it never will be. Mohammad was a murderer, a rapist and a paedophile.”

2. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, EDL demonstration, Peterborough, 11 December 2010: “Islam…..Islam rules this country with fear. Islam rules this country with fear. Look around you: do you see any scared fucking faces ? No I fucking don’t ! I see faces ready and waiting for whatever Islam wants to throw at us ! Militant Islam and Islam’s days in this nation are numbered…..”

3. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, EDL demonstration, Peterborough, 11 December 2010: “Islam is a disease…..it is a disease…..”

4. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, EDL demonstration, Peterborough, 11 December 2010: “Islam has never been a religion of peace ! It never will be a religion of peace ! It never fucking will !”

5. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, posting on Twitter, 18 June 2012: “Mohammad was a extremist. Islam is extreme”.

6. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, EDL demonstration, Luton, 5 May 2012: “The prophet Mohammad, the false prophet Mohammad…..”

7. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, posting on Twitter, 18 June 2012: “Guns don’t kill people Islam does. Backward cult breeding hostility towards us. Stick that in ya Islamophobia meeting”.

8. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, video speech, May 2011: “I’ve got a problem with Islam and militant Islam. That’s where my problem is…..Because my motives are one thing: saving this country from the cesspit that is Islam.”

9. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, EDL demonstration, London, 3 September 2011 (full speech here): “And we are here today to tell you quite loud and clear, to every single Muslim watching this on Youtube, on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens. You got away with it. You had better understand that we have built a network from one end of this country to the other end, and we will not tolerate it, and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our citizens killed, maimed or hurt on British soil ever again.”

10. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, speech at the Far-Right “British Freedom Party’s” South West Regional Meeting, 21 June 2012: “The British National Party, yeah. The majority of British National Party supporters: decent people, fed up people…[...]…After three years of being English Defence League, everyone knows what we stand for. We’re anti-Islam; that’s it.”

11. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, EDL demonstration, Leicester, 4 February 2012: “There is a two-tier system [in the United Kingdom] okay, where Muslims are treated more favourably than non-Muslims. Now, we cannot have a master race…..Every man and woman, you are brave people who are standing here…[…]…to defeat a two-tier system, to defeat a master race, to stand equal. We want British rights for British people.”

12. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, interview, 27 January 2010: “Within 30 or 40 years in this country we are complete minority to Muslims, because of the Muslim demographics…..Our culture and our race will disappear in this country.”

13. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, interview with BBC Radio West Midlands, 22 October 2011: “The black community and the white community in Birmingham are treated with iron fists. The Islamic community are treated with kid gloves and that’s just the way it is. And it’s not on. You can’t have a two-tier policing system. There can be no master race. And I’m sorry, but there is a master race in certain areas of this country and it’s Islam !”

14. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, posting on Twitter, 6 May 2013: “Other ethnic minorities are not exploding, it’s Muslim birth rate that’s exploding.”

15. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, posting on Twitter, 20 June 2012: “I just saw someone planting a time bomb, or as the Muslim woman involved called it ‘having a baby’”.

16. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, posting on Twitter, 24 May 2012: “Over half of all Muslims inbreed!”

17. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, referring to bacon being voted Britain’s favourite food, posting on Twitter, 26 May 2012: “The muzzers can stick that up their arse.”

18. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/”“Tommy Robinson”, posting on Twitter, May 2012: “You’re a nice muslim #shitnobodysays”.

19. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/”“Tommy Robinson”, directing the anti-Semitic “hooknose” racial slur at a South Asian Muslim, posting on Twitter, 20 August 2012: “What have i failed at? #hooknose”.

20. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/”“Tommy Robinson”, directing the anti-Semitic “hooknose” racial slur at Muslims again, posting on Twitter, 10 June 2013: “I know I just wanted to prove how easy it is to bypass airport security! Imagine how many Muslims do it #hooknoses #beards ….. I’m just pointing out a lot of Muslim makes have hooknoses #fact due to inbreeding?”

21. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/“Tommy Robinson”, posting on Twitter, 24 May 2012: “Muslims giving themselves English nicknames really frustrates me”.

22. English Defence League leadership, posting on their official Twitter account, 1 March 2012: “ “Paki Bashing“ trending in United Kingdom, wonder if it will catch on world wide #EDL #makebradfordbritish”.

23. English Defence League leadership, posting on their official Facebook page, November 2011 (screenshot and transcript via the British Government’s Home Affairs Select Committee): “In the last 66 years we as a nation, as a race have had our national identity stolen from us by politicians who have forced us to accept multiculturalism. They have and still are practicing cultural genocide on their own people, despite warnings that we will not accept it. They have forced us to accept the dilution of our heritage and history by the implementation of laws which will stop us from rising up, even if that’s just to voice an opinion.

Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving us of our integrity as distinct peoples, or of our cultural values or ethnic identities. Any form of population transfer which has the aim or effect of violating or undermining any of the rights of the native or indigenous people. Any form of assimilation or integration by other cultures or ways of life imposed on us by legislative, administrative or other measures is cultural genocide.

And unless we find our backbone and stand up to the ones who are committing crimes against the English people we shall continue to be subjected to slavery by a British elite aided by outside influences whose only intention is to destroy us from within and wipe us out as a race.”

For interested readers, Maajid Nawaz’s Twitter address is @MaajidNawaz, and BBC anchor Adil Ray’s Twitter address is @adilray.

Tommy Robinson’s EDL Resignation was Disingenuous Nonsense

Tommy Robinson of the English Defense League (EDL)

Tommy Robinson

by Matthew Goodwin (Guardian)

On Tuesday, the resignation of two of the most senior English Defence League leaders, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (AKA Tommy Robinson) and Kevin Carroll, was remarkable because of what did not happen. There was no repudiation of the EDL’s beliefs, or goals. There was no criticism of EDL foot soldiers, who were held up by Lennon as “the best people in my life”. There was no sense of remorse for the impact and financial cost that EDL rallies have had on (already devastated) working-class communities up and down the country. There was no rejection of leading Islamophobes in Britain and elsewhere, whom the EDL have worked closely with. But most striking was that there was no shift whatsoever in Lennon’s own views. Asked by an extremely passive Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight whether he had changed his beliefs, Lennon dodged the question, saying, “I want people to listen to my views. I see this as a step forward”.

Instead, what did happen was a remarkable display of disingenuous nonsense, backed up by the counter-extremism thinktank the Quilliam foundation, itself founded by ex-extremists who have seen the light and – to be blunt – should know better. In just 24 hours we were told we were witnessing a huge success for community relations, but then learned that, actually, Lennon plans to establish a new anti-Islamist movement, which we assume will adhere to his slapdash generalisations of sharia law and misinterpretations of the Qur’an. We were told how this was about keeping extremists at bay, but then assured by Lennon that EDL activists are “decent people” and that this was the next phase in his group’s evolution. We were told this was about fighting extremism in Britain, then given a list of reasons by Lennon that were entirely self-interested: reflections on his life in prison; concern about his family’s safety; and an acknowledgment he had become powerless to control his own creation, which is now infested by rightwing extremists (the most interesting statement of the day, given the Metropolitan police’s refusal to view the EDL as an extreme rightwing group).

All of these are valid reasons, of course. Across Europe, we know that what is often the most effective at disengaging people from far-right groups is not challenging their ideological worldview but helping them to achieve something more mundane: a new relationship; moving to a new town; or a steadyjob. Practitioners from Germany to the Netherlands tell me how these practical changes play a stronger role than mythical “counter-narratives” in pushing disillusioned young men out of the arms of extremists. Such a transformation is not what we saw yesterday.

A useful distinction is between disengagement, where somebody leaves an extremist group while possibly still holding the beliefs that got them involved, and deradicalisation, a difficult term that implies at least some fundamental change in how people view and make sense of the world around them. Disengaging somebody from extremist activity is easier than the more complex process of overhauling one’s values and outlook. This helps explain why so many ex-terrorists and ex-extremists never manage the transition. Instead, they hurl themselves to the other side of the spectrum, becoming just as fanatically obsessed with the promotion of democracy, fighting their former extremist brethren – or selling their latest book. And, as we saw yesterday, they often fail to comprehend personal responsibility. It’s not Lennon who is at fault, it’s the neo-Nazis who took over his group. It’s not the radical Islamist, it’s the foreign policy grievance, or the far-right extremists who attacked his mosque. And so on.

That both Lennon and Quilliam were so aggressive in advertising to the media the apparent conversion and celebrating their publicity on Twitter should speak volumes. The dignified and difficult work of counter-extremism was not really there, replaced by an uncomfortable descent into self-promotion with little evidence of substantive change. A cynic could point to the fact that both the EDL and Quilliam have had their own difficulties in recent months and that this is all a ruse to make Lennon’s warped view of Islam seem mainstream. After all, in the late 1990s one fairly prominent activist made a similar stand, complaining that demonstrations and violence were not the way forward. His name was Nick Griffin.

Serious answers to questions about how this came about, what change of views have occurred (if any) and why Lennon spent most of yesterday regurgitating his already well-known prejudices were absent. Was yesterday interesting? Perhaps, if only because it underscored what a strange place the counter-extremism industry can be. Was it a watershed moment, signifying the withdrawal of two men from a damaging movement and a poisonous set of beliefs? Not in my view.

It Took Stephen Lennon Only 4 Years to Figure Out the EDL Was Populated with Neo-Nazis & Anti-Muslim ‘Morons’

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Quilliam’s Maajid Nawaz with Stephen Lennon and Kevin Carroll.

It’s always nice to hear about the light bulb flickering on in someone’s head and at least Tommy Robinson/Stephen Lennon and Kevin Carroll are far ahead of their North American peers, Rev. Deacon Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller who likely still consider the EDL that they used to lead to be defenders of freedom.”

After 4 years it has dawned on Lennon and Carroll that the organization they lead is populated with A LOT of neo-Nazis and “anti-Muslim morons.” WE’VE BEEN TELLING YOU TOMMY!!

CriticalDragon, by way of HopeNotHate has cautioned us however that this may not be a real awakening and may in fact be a ruse.

Sure Quilliam gets to justify that government money they get and Tommy is able to shift strategy and leave the baggage of hate he has helped promote for several years now but, golly gee, we can’t just forget about the past 4 years!

(h/t: Seeker)

EDL leader Tommy Robinson QUITS and brands violent anti-Muslim supporters ‘morons’

(Express)

The counter-extremism think tank Quilliam has brokered the move with Tommy Robinson and his right hand man Kevin Carroll.Today the pair said they now wanted to resist all forms of extremism and Quilliam called for both radical Islamists and far-right supporters to follow their lead.Tommy Robinson said: “I have been considering this move for a long time because I recognise that though street demonstrations have brought us to this point, they are no longer productive.“I acknowledge the dangers of far right extremism and the ongoing need to counter Islamist ideology not with violence but with better, democratic ideas.”

Speaking on the BBC’s 5 Live radio later, he said he was tired of being associated with ”morons” who advocate violence against Muslims.

He said: “When some moron lifts up his top and has got a picture of a mosque saying boom and it’s all over the national newspapers – it’s me.

“It’s when I pick up my kids from school the parents are looking at me, judging me on that.

“That’s not what I stood for. My decision is to be true to what I stand for and whilst I want to lead a revolution against Islamist ideology I don’t want to lead a revolution against Muslims.

“I believe the revolution needs to come from within the Islamic community and they need to stand up and I believe this is a step forward not a step back.”

Read the rest…

Geller-Spencer Allies “English Defence League” Riot in Britain

This is who Spencer and Geller refer to as “warriors of Western Civilization.”

Geller-Spencer Allies “English Defence League” Riot in Britain

The drunken racist British yahoos known as the English Defence League took to the streets and rioted yesterday following the attack on a soldier in London: Woolwich: Riot Police Contain EDL Supporters.

The EDL are allies of our home-grown Bigot Brigade, led by Anti-Muslim demagoguesPamela Geller and Robert Spencer, and these two hateful thugs are now doing their damnedest to incite similar violence against Muslims in America. Thankfully, we don’t have fascist groups like the EDL in this country, but it’s not for lack of trying by Geller, Spencer, and their nasty friends.

English Defence League supporters have thrown missiles at police in Woolwich after a machete attack that left one man dead.

A group of between 75 and 100 men gathered at The Queen’s Arms pub on Burrage Grove, where they sang nationalistic songs.

Sky News correspondent Alistair Bunkall, who is at the scene, said: “As soon as the EDL got into the town centre … it became not only a lot harder for the police to try and contain anything, but also the aggression (increased) quite considerably.

“A few missiles have been thrown, glass bottles and the like. The police are trying to surround them and they’ve been charging them as well with batons.”

ALSO SEE:
Woolwich Attack: More Than 100 English Defence League Supporters Gather Near Scene of Killing

UPDATE at 5/23/13 10:13:33 am

Right wing loon Pat Dollard, a writer for Breitbart.com, calls this a “feel-good story:”

EDL vows to return to Cambridge in bigger numbers

EDL Cambridge 2013 2.jpg

EDL vows to return to Cambridge in bigger numbers

The English Defence League has vowed to return to Cambridge in bigger numbers – despite a low turnout and several arrests.

Its rally on Christ’s Pieces on Saturday ended early after only about 40 members turned up. More than 400 officers were drafted in to police them and a counter-demonstration by Cambridge Unite Against Fascism which had more than 500 people in its ranks, according to police.

EDL members said they were furious, claiming they were “penned in” during attempts to protest against a planned mosque in Mill Road. Scores of police surrounded the EDL protesters who were behind fences next to Drummer Street bus station.

EDL members were heckled by passers-by and began to fight among themselves as their stewards tried to eject a man who had a “banned” Nazi banner. When counter-protesters marched past, with the two groups separated by a police “no-go zone”, one EDL member broke through but was quickly stopped by police.

A spokesman for the group’s East Anglia Division told the News: “We are not thugs or extremists. We are the silent majority but we have been penned in like pigs while the police allow the lefties to march through the city.

“But we will be back in bigger numbers. The leaders are planning a national protest here in Cambridge. All we want to do is have a peaceful protest against a mosque that is not in keeping and will cause no end of traffic problems as it holds 1,000 but has just 80 parking spaces. We are not against Muslims. We are anti-Islam.”

Tourist Vic Synott, 50, of Ayr, Scotland, came across the EDL chanting “we are the famous EDL”. He said: “They are just showing themselves up by their behaviour. They are a disgrace.”

EDL speakers hit out at MEP Richard Howitt for branding them “extremists”.

The Euro MP told the counter-marchers the party had sent him a note “adorned with Nazi swastikas” and accusing him of being “a traitor to civilisation and democracy”. He added: “There is only one group that represents everything in our society which is uncivilised and undemocratic. The traitors to Britain’s traditions of tolerance, fairness and respect – the true traitors – are the EDL themselves. They are a joke.”

Cambridge News, 25 February 2013

As you can see from the YouTube link, the so-called Nazi banner featured the word “ISLAM” with the letter “S” replaced by a swastika. The individual holding it shouted that “Islam is fascism – anti-democratic, misogynistic, anti-gay”, while his drunken supporters chanted “stick your fucking Islam up your arse”. However other EDL members, who were presumably too thick to understand the message behind the banner, attacked him on the basis that he had broken the EDL’s ban on the public display of Nazi symbols.

Harry’s Place Contributor Says Rape Isn’t That Bad

Andy Hughes Facebook profile

The Neoconservative Zionist website Harry’s Place whose commenters we’ve engaged in the past is taken to task by Bob Pitt of Islamophobia-Watch for hypocrisy, double standards and Islamophobia.

Sarah Brown, a regular commenter on articles here is also criticized. (h/t: Frank P.)

Harry’s Place contributor says rape isn’t that bad

by Bob Pitt

Last year we ran a piece on former English Defence League activist Andy Hughes, proprietor of the Islamic Far-Right in Britain blog, whose articles denouncing the Islamist threat to western civilisation are regularly crossposted at the notorious Islamophobic blog Harry’s Place.

We pointed out that, in addition to declaring his admiration for convicted thug Joel Titus, the ex-leader of the EDL’s youth section, Hughes had made antisemitic comments on the Expose Facebook page under the pseudonym of Arry Bo. Expressing his dislike of “Yids” who “think they are superior beings and the rest of us are scum”, Hughes wrote that this explained “why Jews have been kicked out of so many countries” .

Given HP’s readiness to denounce opponents of the state of Israel as antisemites, you might have thought they would be quick to dissociate themselves from Hughes and his vile remarks. But no. Sarah Annes Brown, who presents herself as the voice of reason at Harry’s Place (competition isn’t exactly fierce), happily accepted Hughes’ laughable explanation that in posting these antisemitic comments he was simply trying to wind people up. She attributed this to the fact that Hughes is “a bit – skittish”!

Earlier today Hughes joined a discussion at Expose, posting comments under one of his other aliases, Arry Ajalami. Although he has in the past insisted that he has broken with the EDL and rejects its current methods and ideology (which is why HP say they have no problem with publishing his articles), this didn’t prevent Hughes from posting a number of comments that show he still identifies closely with this gang of racists and fascists.

Even more disgusting, however, was Hughes’ reaction to the posting of a screenshot from the EDL LGBT Division’s Facebook page, in which one EDL supporter advocated a sexual assault on Expose admin Darcy Jones. A denunciation of “these muslim dogs and the liberal garbage who protect them”, was followed by: “Let them rape Darcy. She likes these dogs so much.”

Hughes’ response was: “Well my cousin’s mate was raped and she said it wasn’t THAT bad. She didn’t like it but said it wasn’t as bad as when she got beaten up by a gang of Muslims.” Quite rightly, the comment was almost immediately removed, but not before Expose had taken a screenshot which can be viewed here. You’ll notice, by the way, that Hughes had adopted the National Front logo as his profile picture.

During the past week Harry’s Place has been making hay over the Socialist Workers Party’s failure to deal properly with an accusation of rape against one of its leading figures. Before that, HP attacked George Galloway over his remarks trivialising the rape charges against Julian Assange. So you might think that, in all consistency, they would have to sever links with Hughes over his own reprehensible views on sexual violence and cease crossposting articles from his Islamic Far-Right in Britain blog.

But, again, this would almost certainly be a mistaken assumption. If you’re prepared to assist in the witch-hunting of Muslim organisations, then you can announce your admiration for a violent hooligan, express atrocious antisemitic views, declare your support for a street movement of anti-Muslim thugs, claim that being raped isn’t such a bad experience after all, and you’ll probably get a free pass from Harry’s Place. They’ll put it all down to your skittish personality.

Pamela Geller Defends Kevin Carroll’s Statement that Muslims Are “All Fuckin’ Backward Savages”

Robert Spencer - Kevin Carroll - Pamela Geller - Stephen Yaxley-Lennon - Stockholm August 2012

Pamela Geller reaffirms what is evident and a fact we noted from the beginning, her usage of the term “savages,” despite her lying denials, is in reference to all Muslims and Arabs.

Jai Singh initially alerted us to the reports regarding the arrest of Kevin Caroll for posting a racist and anti-Muslim screed on Facebook. Geller has leapt to Caroll’s defense, as well as the language he used in his Facebook posting.

Kevin Caroll’s initial post which was accompanied by inflammatory anti-Muslim material:

“They are all backward savages, a devil-spawned death-cult worshipping all that is barbaric and unholy. Pure evil”

In characteristic shrill, drooling and Goebbelsesque rhetoric Geller comments:

“Joining the co-founder of the EDL in prison, Kevin Carroll has been arrested for a Facebook comment. This is part of the war on freedom and its champions.

“Kevin Carroll and Tommy Robinson are on the SION President’s Council and are true fighters for freedom. They oppose the oppression, subjugation and racism of Islamic supremacism. But the savages have succeeded in imposing the sharia – hence their arrests.

“Apparently Kevin Carroll used the word I made famous in our AFDI ads, ‘savage’. And got arrested. The savages didn’t like it. The [sic] is blasphemy enforcement by dhimmi law enforcment. But their instructions came from on high. Shocking. If the Brits don’t fight back, it’s over for them.”

Screenshot of Kevin Caroll’s comment as according to the Official BFP page:

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Pamela Geller Defends British Fascist Imprisoned for Entering the US Illegally

Tommy Robinson of the English Defense League (EDL)

Tommy Robinson of the English Defense League (EDL)

Documenting the craziness. (h/t:CriticalDragon)

Pamela Geller Defends British Fascist Imprisoned for Entering the US Illegally

by Charles Johnson

I hadn’t looked at Pamela Geller’s site in a while, but I just did, and wow. She’s always been a swivel-eyed loon, but the hate is just off the charts now. Non-stop rage and bigotry. Really ugly stuff.

One of her latest crazed posts defends the leader of the fascist English Defense League, calling him a “political prisoner:” POLITICAL IMPRISONMENT IN THE UK: EDL LEADER TOMMY ROBINSON JAILED FOR 10 MONTHS!!!

It is stunning that the UK has degenerated to such depths. Freedom is no longer a reality, but a defeated idea undone by cowardice and capitulation of Islamic thuggery and violence.

Tommy Robinson, my colleague and board member of SION, is a political prisoner in the UK, imprisoned for standing up for freedom and equality of rights under the law. I stand with Robinson.

Tommy Robinson has been rotting in a UK jail under gruesome conditions awaiting trial for months.

Actually, Robinson isn’t his real name, and his prison sentence has nothing to do with standing up for anyone’s freedom. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (his real name, or possibly another alias) pleaded guilty to using someone else’s passport to illegally enter the United States, in order to speak at one of Geller’s anti-Muslim rallies. And he resorted to this ruse because he was previously barred from the US due to his violent criminal record.

I wonder what Pamela would have to say about a Muslim who entered the US with someone else’s passport?

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EDL’s Thanet Division Leader Convicted of Assault

Gary Milsom

Another one of Geller & Spencer’s EDL thug pals has been convicted of assault.

EDL’s Thanet division leader convicted of assault

Hope Not Hate reports that the leader of the English Defence League’s Thanet division, Gary Milsom, has been fined £150 and sentenced to 120 hours community service after being found guilty of common assault and resisting a police officer.

Milsom, operating under the witty pseudonym“Pat Riot”, organised the harassment of worshippers at a mosque in his home town of Margate last September. At the time, Milsom assured the Isle of Thanet Gazette that the EDL was not racist and was committed to peaceful action.

The fraudulent character of Milsom’s claim to oppose racism was exposed by a Gazette reporter who attended an EDL meeting in Margate at which ”dirty Pakis” were denounced along with “dirty Muslims”. Milsom’s recent conviction now also demolishes his supposed commitment to non-violence.

Geller-Spencer EDL Ally Stephen Yaxley-Lennon Jailed for Using False Passport

Geller and Lennon SION conference

Stephen Lennon has pled guilty to using a false passport to enter the United States and attend Geller &Spencer’s SION conference. Hopefully US authorities will be investigating Geller’s involvement in this:

EDL leader Stephen Lennon jailed for 10 months for using false passport to attend Geller’s conference

The leader of the English Defence League has been jailed for using someone else’s passport to get into the United States.

Stephen Lennon, 30, pleaded guilty to possession of a false identity document with improper intention, contrary to the Identity Documents Act 2010, at Southwark Crown Court.

Lennon used a passport in the name of Andrew McMaster to board a Virgin Atlantic Flight from Heathrow to New York, but was caught out after his fingerprints were taken by customs officials.

He left the airport and entered the US illegally but left the country the following day, using his own passport to return to the UK.

The court heard that Lennon, who had previously been refused entry to the US, used his friend’s passport to travel to the country in September.

He used a self check-in kiosk to board the Virgin Atlantic flight at Heathrow, and was allowed through when the document was checked in the bag drop area.

But when he arrived at New York’s JFK Airport, customs officials who took his fingerprints realised he was not Mr McMaster. Lennon was asked to attend a second interview but left the airport, entering the US illegally.

He stayed just one night and travelled back to the UK the following day using his own legitimate passport – which bears the name Paul Harris. The court heard that is the name that appears on the EDL leader’s passport, although he uses aliases.

Lennon, who was arrested in October, was jailed for 10 months.

The court heard that he was previously jailed for assault in 2005 and also has previous convictions for drugs offences and public order offences.

Sky News, 7 January 2013